Believe it or not I've seen very little of the racefail. I don't usually follow threads that accomplish nothing but name calling. However I have read a few post on racism and found them very interesting. Now what is this linkspam roundup?
All these "communities" monitoring other blogs it It does have a bit of Sovietishness or BIG BROTHERness about it.
I'm all for discussion of race, gender and orientation but if people really want to make changes it seems the have to be open to challenging opinions. On both side.
..Which isn't that far from the Wiscon solution. "Are you a FOC? Do you want to go to Wiscon? Let us fundraise for you so you can go!"
When I suggested it would be better to investigate what would make cons more appealing to FOC rather than, in effect, bussing them in, I was Very Very Wrong.
*eyeroll*
But I'm also told that panelists are tired of looking out at the audience and seeing white faces looking back at them.
How about (from the Pocatello, ID, US Attorneys office website):
FOUR INDIVIDUALS INDICTED FOR RACIALLY-MOTIVATED ASSAULT IN NAMPA, IDAHO
Four individuals have been arrested and charged with carrying out a racially-motivated beating and conspiring to interfere with the civil rights of an African-American man in Nampa, Idaho.
The indictment, returned on Feb. 11, 2009, by a federal grand jury in the District of Idaho, was announced by Acting Assistant Attorney General Loretta King of the Civil Rights Division; U.S. Attorney Thomas E. Moss for the District of Idaho; Timothy J. Fuhrman, Special Agent in Charge of the FBI’s Salt Lake City Field Office; and Chief Bill Augsburger of the Nampa Police Department.
The indictment alleges that on July 4, 2008, Michael J. Bullard, Jennifer J. Hartpence, a/k/a Jennifer J. Erickson, Richard C. Armstrong and James D. Whitewater, encountered an African-American man inside a Wal-Mart Supercenter store. As the defendants left the store, they discussed beating this African-American man and made preparations for the attack. When the African-American man left the store, the defendants allegedly threatened him, called him racial slurs and Bullard asked him what country he thought he was in. The African-American man tried to run away, but Bullard, Armstrong and Whitewater allegedly chased him across the store’s parking lot, where they tackled him and repeatedly hit and kicked him.
“Hate crimes tear at the very fabric of our great nation and we must remain vigilant in our efforts to combat them,” said Acting Assistant Attorney General Loretta King.
“We are well past the time in Idaho when a person’s race, color, religion or ethnicity can be the basis for an assault,” said U.S. Attorney Thomas E. Moss. “Everyone has a legal right to frequent a business that serves as a public accommodation without being injured or intimidated based on race. This office will vigorously pursue prosecution of individuals who perpetrate hate crimes.”
“One cannot help but note the irony that the terrible acts described in the indictment occurred on the 4th of July last year,” said Timothy J. Fuhrman, Special Agent in Charge of the FBI’s Salt Lake City Field Office. “The initial aggressive investigative efforts by the Nampa Police Department in this matter were instrumental in leading to the indictment of these four individuals. In this day and age law enforcement cannot tolerate such activity, and the FBI is committed to investigating these incidents aggressively and without fail.”
“This case is important in so much as the vigorous investigation by Nampa Detectives, cooperation by the citizens of Nampa and of the hard work on the part of the Federal Bureau of Investigation shows that hate bias crimes are taken very seriously and will not be tolerated,” said Nampa Police Department Chief Bill Augsburger.
If convicted, Bullard, Hartpence, Armstrong and Whitewater face a maximum prison sentence of 20 years. The details contained in the indictment are only allegations; the defendants are presumed to be innocent unless and until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt in a court of law.
The case is being investigated by the FBI and the Nampa Police Department. It is being prosecuted by Assistant U.S. Attorney Wendy Olson of the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the District of Idaho and Trial Attorney Erin Aslan of the Justice Department’s Civil Rights Division.
Well, how about it? I don't see much of a connection between four racist thugs assaulting a man in Idaho, and my groaning about a long and seemingly pointless discussion of race and science fiction on LiveJournal.
I mean, I certainly hope you're not insinuating that _I'm_ sympathetic to those thugs.
No, silly! I'm busing in some REAL white supremacists, like you asked!
As someone who professionally occasionally needs to play the race card, I appreciate the subtleties of racism and racist action. But, so often in intellectualized debates, the rawest forms are lost in the shuffle.
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briansiano) wrote,
May 22 2009, 05:33:45 UTC 3 years ago
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I'm too full of 'no, really, what's your point?'
May 26 2009, 00:29:41 UTC 2 years ago
... and it might be fun to watch the fireworks...
... but I reiterate: do not provoke the animals.
May 26 2009, 00:31:38 UTC 2 years ago
You're right, of course.
May 22 2009, 13:26:36 UTC 3 years ago
Now what is this linkspam roundup?
May 22 2009, 13:29:04 UTC 3 years ago
(see http://linkspam.dreamwidth.org/2784.htm
May 22 2009, 13:45:37 UTC 3 years ago Edited: May 22 2009, 13:46:08 UTC
I found this community I joined because I'm curious.
http://community.livejournal.com/fight_
All these "communities" monitoring other blogs it It does have a bit of Sovietishness or BIG BROTHERness about it.
I'm all for discussion of race, gender and orientation but if people really want to make changes it seems the have to be open to challenging opinions. On both side.
May 22 2009, 14:02:37 UTC 3 years ago
May 22 2009, 14:17:28 UTC 3 years ago
Even if it is only attention they get possibly for readership of their fiction?
I think self appointed "Thought police" are creepy.
May 22 2009, 14:05:07 UTC 3 years ago
May 22 2009, 17:20:07 UTC 3 years ago
http://kate-nepveu.livejournal.com/3872
May 26 2009, 00:10:30 UTC 2 years ago
When I suggested it would be better to investigate what would make cons more appealing to FOC rather than, in effect, bussing them in, I was Very Very Wrong.
*eyeroll*
But I'm also told that panelists are tired of looking out at the audience and seeing white faces looking back at them.
Ummmmkay.
May 22 2009, 13:55:10 UTC 3 years ago
May 22 2009, 18:00:15 UTC 3 years ago
May 22 2009, 14:57:54 UTC 3 years ago
FOUR INDIVIDUALS INDICTED FOR RACIALLY-MOTIVATED ASSAULT IN NAMPA, IDAHO
Four individuals have been arrested and charged with carrying out a racially-motivated beating and conspiring to interfere with the civil rights of an African-American man in Nampa, Idaho.
The indictment, returned on Feb. 11, 2009, by a federal grand jury in the District of Idaho, was announced by Acting Assistant Attorney General Loretta King of the Civil Rights Division; U.S. Attorney Thomas E. Moss for the District of Idaho; Timothy J. Fuhrman, Special Agent in Charge of the FBI’s Salt Lake City Field Office; and Chief Bill Augsburger of the Nampa Police Department.
The indictment alleges that on July 4, 2008, Michael J. Bullard, Jennifer J. Hartpence, a/k/a Jennifer J. Erickson, Richard C. Armstrong and James D. Whitewater, encountered an African-American man inside a Wal-Mart Supercenter store. As the defendants left the store, they discussed beating this African-American man and made preparations for the attack. When the African-American man left the store, the defendants allegedly threatened him, called him racial slurs and Bullard asked him what country he thought he was in. The African-American man tried to run away, but Bullard, Armstrong and Whitewater allegedly chased him across the store’s parking lot, where they tackled him and repeatedly hit and kicked him.
“Hate crimes tear at the very fabric of our great nation and we must remain vigilant in our efforts to combat them,” said Acting Assistant Attorney General Loretta King.
“We are well past the time in Idaho when a person’s race, color, religion or ethnicity can be the basis for an assault,” said U.S. Attorney Thomas E. Moss. “Everyone has a legal right to frequent a business that serves as a public accommodation without being injured or intimidated based on race. This office will vigorously pursue prosecution of individuals who perpetrate hate crimes.”
“One cannot help but note the irony that the terrible acts described in the indictment occurred on the 4th of July last year,” said Timothy J. Fuhrman, Special Agent in Charge of the FBI’s Salt Lake City Field Office. “The initial aggressive investigative efforts by the Nampa Police Department in this matter were instrumental in leading to the indictment of these four individuals. In this day and age law enforcement cannot tolerate such activity, and the FBI is committed to investigating these incidents aggressively and without fail.”
“This case is important in so much as the vigorous investigation by Nampa Detectives, cooperation by the citizens of Nampa and of the hard work on the part of the Federal Bureau of Investigation shows that hate bias crimes are taken very seriously and will not be tolerated,” said Nampa Police Department Chief Bill Augsburger.
If convicted, Bullard, Hartpence, Armstrong and Whitewater face a maximum prison sentence of 20 years. The details contained in the indictment are only allegations; the defendants are presumed to be innocent unless and until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt in a court of law.
The case is being investigated by the FBI and the Nampa Police Department. It is being prosecuted by Assistant U.S. Attorney Wendy Olson of the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the District of Idaho and Trial Attorney Erin Aslan of the Justice Department’s Civil Rights Division.
May 22 2009, 15:50:53 UTC 3 years ago
I mean, I certainly hope you're not insinuating that _I'm_ sympathetic to those thugs.
May 22 2009, 17:06:27 UTC 3 years ago
As someone who professionally occasionally needs to play the race card, I appreciate the subtleties of racism and racist action. But, so often in intellectualized debates, the rawest forms are lost in the shuffle.
May 22 2009, 17:40:29 UTC 3 years ago